The late Michael Heiser and his teachings have recently come under fire by a group of folks who recently released a 2.5 hour video making erroneous assertions about him and his teachings. We gathered a high-octane panel of those most familiar with Heiser’s teachings in a civil theological rebuttal to these claims. This was a great podcast where I got to share alot in defending Mike. Giant Steps Podcast with Doug Van Dorn. Watch or Listen Here
Those nine words are among the most controversial in the entire Bible.
Who or what were the Nephilim? Doug Van Dorn (www.douglasvandorn.com), author of Giants: Sons of the Gods, and Brian Godawa (www.Godawa.com), best-selling author of Chronicles of the Nephilim and the theological thriller Cruel Logic, join us for our monthly Iron and Myth roundtable to discuss the giants of the pre-Flood world.
We address the arguments against understanding these beings as literal hybrid creatures and explore the reasons why this interpretation is not taught in seminaries.
We highlight the importance of addressing contrary views and the need to consider multiple interpretations of theological concepts.
Our conversation touches on the role of the Septuagint in understanding the giants and the connection between the giants and the divine council, the interpretation of the Hebrew word ‘Nephilim’ and its connection to the ‘sons of God’ and ‘daughters of men’ in Genesis 6, and the significance of cosmic geography and the cult of the dead in relation to the giants.
A DEBATE over the nature and identity of a shadowy group mentioned in the Book of Genesis has divided Christian theologians for the last 1,600 years.
This month, our Iron and Myth roundtable discusses the “sons of God” in Genesis 6:1–4. Were they divine beings or humans?
And if they were just flesh and blood, how did their unions with “daughters of men” result in the Nephilim (which we’ll discuss next month)?
Joining Derek Gilbert to hash this out are Doug Van Dorn (www.douglasvandorn.com), author of Giants: Sons of the Gods, Dr. Judd Burton (www.BurtonBeyond.net), author of Interview With the Giant, and Brian Godawa (www.Godawa.com), best-selling author of the theological thriller Cruel Logic.
Our discussion explores the interpretation of the phrase ‘sons of God’ in Genesis 6 and its implications in the Old and New Testaments.
We delve into the Sethite view, the dynastic king view, and the supernatural view, examining the historical and linguistic context of the phrase.
The Septuagint’s role in clarifying the supernatural elements is also highlighted.
We also address the fear of mythology and selective theology based on personal bias.
The conversation also explores the divine right of kings, the nature of the angel of the Lord, the concept of the Nephilim, the cultural context of ancient beliefs, and the danger of interpreting ancient scriptures while projecting modern values onto the past.
When are gods not gods? When they’re rebranded as human judges or rulers to avoid uncomfortable theological implications.
Derek Gilbert, hosts. Brian Godawa (www.Godawa.com), best-selling author of the theological thriller Cruel Logic, Doug Van Dorn (www.douglasvandorn.com), author of Giants: Sons of the Gods, and Dr. Judd Burton (www.BurtonBeyond.net), author of Interview With the Giant, discuss a Hebrew phrase in Genesis 6:2 that has led to a lot of theological discussion over the last 1,700 years.
Are the bene ha-elohim (“sons of God”) angelic beings or is that simply a term that refers to human rulers who allowed themselves to be corrupted.
Psalm 82 reads like a courtroom scene in heaven if one accepts the supernatural interpretation of “sons of God” or “sons of the Most High.”
However, because Jesus quotes Psalm 82:6 (“I said, ‘You are gods’”) in John 10:34, responding to a group of Jews who wanted to stone him for claiming to be divine, there are those who argue that Psalm 82 does not refer to supernatural beings.
We discuss Jesus’s use of Psalm 82 in John 10; in a nutshell, he would not have claimed to be divine (“I and the Father are one” – John 10:30) and then immediately said, in effect, “But it’s OK because you’re all gods, too.”
The Psalms are often polemics directed at the gods of the pagan nations around Israel. Case in point is the subject of this month’s Iron and Myth roundtable, Psalm 29.
Host Derek Gilbert, Dr. Judd Burton (www.BurtonBeyond.net), author of Interview With the Giant, Brian Godawa (www.Godawa.com), best-selling author of the new novel Cruel Logic, and Doug Van Dorn (www.douglasvandorn.com), author of Giants: Sons of the Gods, discuss Psalm 29 and its interpretation from a divine counsel perspective.
We explore the translation of the Hebrew phrase bene elim as “sons of God” and its connection to the divine council (Psalm 82:1).
We also discuss the similarities between Psalm 29 and Canaanite poetry about Baal, suggesting that the psalm may be a subversive polemic against Baal worship.
We also highlight the geographical references in the psalm and their significance in relation to the storm-god language. It’s important to recognize these similarities and understand the cultural context of the biblical world.
Not only did the Hebrew prophets and psalmists take direct aim at the gods of their pagan neighbors, their writings reveal Christ in the Old Testament.
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I am telling you, this is THE best summary, complete with Scriptures, that I have ever done on the Nephilim and the Watchers.
I traced the War of the Seed from Genesis 3 to Jesus, and talked about Giants in the Bible. They’re not just an anomaly. They are a theological message.
I talked about the Divine Council, the Deuteronomy 32 worldview, The Watcher paradigm as it is also traced through all of Scripture.
And how these two theological threads weave a tapestry through the Bible.
THE SONS OF GOD saw that the daughters of men were fair, and they took as their wives any they chose.
This story is at the root of many of the spiritual practices of the ancient world—pagan, Jewish, and Christian.
But when did the transgression of the bene ha-elohim take place?
We’re joined again by screenwriter and novelist Brian Godawa, pastor and author Doug Van Dorn (https://douglasvandorn.com/), and archaeologist and author Dr. Judd Burton (burtonbeyond.com/) for our latest edition of Iron and Myth. We discuss the fall of the Watchers, including some fascinating passages in Numbers and Isaiah that may be prophecies of the ultimate destruction of the rebellious Watchers and their hybrid offspring, the Nephilim.
From Derek’s Channel: It’s a virtual roundtable this week as we’re joined by three men who have invested a lot of time and energy into untangling scripture from myths and legends of the ancient world to understand why the Hebrew prophets and apostles were led to include giants in the Bible.
Taking part in the discussion, which may well become a regular feature, are:
* Author and screenwriter Brian Godawa (www.godawa.com)
* Pastor and author Doug Van Dorn (www.douglasvandorn.com)
* Archaeologist, historian, author, and teacher Dr. Judd Burton (www.burtonbeyond.com, www.tioba.org)
Among other topics, we discuss the motives of the rebellious “sons of God” referred to in Genesis 6:1–4, how they hope to escape the sentence of death God proclaimed in Psalm 82, and whether verse 1 of that psalm describes a courtroom scene in God’s divine council or His intrusion into the “council of El,” creator-god of the pagan Canaanites.